[18:06] jwatso21 Book: Aren't we the same group that was here on Sunday? [18:06] JJ Drinkwater: omg [18:06] Swann Proost: pretty close [18:07] JJ Drinkwater: Rocky's wearing a tie! [18:07] Swann Proost: we could just read the minutes [18:07] You: lol [18:07] Rocky Vallejo: JJ is here [18:07] jwatso21 Book: Damek is coming [18:07] Rocky Vallejo: I wore this tie (with blue jeans and cowboy hat) hust for you, JJ [18:07] jwatso21 Book: Where's Geekster? [18:07] Rocky Vallejo: She didn't know if she'd be able to make it [18:07] JJ Drinkwater: It needs a hula dancer painted on it, Rocky [18:08] You: lol [18:08] Rocky Vallejo: LOL... or a howling wolf? [18:08] Dinnie Devonshire: Anything except a catalogue card [18:08] Rocky Vallejo: Hi Damek [18:08] You: hi Damek [18:08] Entered chat range: Damek Tretiak [18:08] Swann Proost: what is a catalog card? [18:08] Damek Tretiak: Hello every one :-) [[18:08] Rocky Vallejo: erk... no catalog card ties... though I do havea Book of Cells tie in RL [18:08] Swann Proost: hello damek [18:08] Abbey Zenith: Hi Damek :) [18:08] Abbey Zenith: Hi everyone [18:09] Dinnie Devonshire: an outmoded extinct (almost) technology [18:09] Swann Proost: what do you know [18:09] Rocky Vallejo: I gues we could get started [18:09] JJ Drinkwater: I still think Caledon needs a stem-driven card catalog [18:10] Swann Proost: ill chip in, jj [18:10] Rocky Vallejo: Did everyone get a chance to look through the minutes of the Saturday meeting? [18:10] Swann Proost: yes [18:10] JJ Drinkwater: Sort of [18:10] Dinnie Devonshire: sort of [18:10] jwatso21 Book: yes [18:10] Rocky Vallejo: LOL.. said like good catalogers! [18:11] Abbey Zenith: no...but I was here :) [18:11] Rocky Vallejo: Hi Morrighan [18:11] Entered chat range: Morrighan Heron [18:11] Abbey Zenith: once was enough... giggle. [18:11] Alphonsus Peck is Online [18:11] Swann Proost: so was i, that's why i had to read the minutes [18:11] You: lol [18:11] JJ Drinkwater: Oh, I made a MARC record for the minutes..I just didn't read them [18:11] Dinnie Devonshire: :) [18:11] Rocky Vallejo: are you here for the catalogers/ meeting, Morrighan? [18:11] Rocky Vallejo: LOL... a man after my own heart, JJ [18:12] Rocky Vallejo: I analyitically cataloged the various parts of the whole transcript... [18:12] JJ Drinkwater: Well...actually what I'm after is your liver,Rocky [18:12] Rocky Vallejo: But back to tonight's meeting [18:12] JJ Drinkwater eyes Rocky hungrily [18:12] Rocky Vallejo: heh... we had a short agenda that took up an houra dn a half! A great person named Geekster took on the weighty role of leadership [18:13] Entered chat range: Damek Tretiak [18:13] Rocky Vallejo: We started out asking Abbey about the current cataloging system... But JJ, since you're the only new person here tonight I guess I shold ask you how familiar you are with the system currenly in use? [18:14] JJ Drinkwater: I've made at least one inventory using it...so I know it, at least [18:14] Damek Tretiak: sorry I left, I crashed...hard. :-( [18:14] Abbey Zenith: wb [18:15] Rocky Vallejo: NP,welcom again, Damek. [18:16] Rocky Vallejo: Since Geekster isn't here tonight I'll sit in and move things along... The current system... we discussed expanding it to include more access [18:16] Princess Ivory is Online [18:16] Rocky Vallejo: Damek told us we could expand the fields currenly being used [18:17] Rocky Vallejo: within the current system [18:17] Usu Ventura is Offline [18:17] Rocky Vallejo: There were questions about what should be cataloged [18:17] JJ Drinkwater: SO, potentially...title, author.... [18:17] Rocky Vallejo: Rocky is thankful to see you typing, JJ [18:17] Rocky Vallejo: grin [18:17] Rocky Vallejo: currently... isn't that it Abbey/Damke? [18:17] JJ Drinkwater sharpens claws [18:18] Rocky Vallejo: heh [18:18] Damek Tretiak: JJ, did you get a copy of the current field sets? [18:18] Abbey Zenith: yes [18:18] JJ Drinkwater: Unless they've changed recently, yes, I have them [18:18] Dinnie Devonshire: yes [18:18] Abbey Zenith: ok everyone must have it. [18:19] Damek Tretiak: that is the current set that is being used, but definitely expandable. [18:19] jwatso21 Book: I don't have it [18:19] Damek Tretiak: I think one area that was discussed last time were the idea of categories [18:19] JJ Drinkwater: So....the part I didn't get to was what access points we proposed...if the meeting got that far? [18:20] Abbey Zenith: not really, but we could place one at each wlelcome center/tp point. [18:20] Abbey Zenith: those are currently being created for the IAA [18:20] Abbey Zenith: one in each large library [18:21] jwatso21 Book accepted your inventory offer. [18:21] Rocky Vallejo: We didn't set out hard and fast decisions about which fields might be added that I can remember [18:21] Abbey Zenith: no we didn't... [18:21] Dinnie Devonshire: I think that we felt that we needed to know what would be described [18:21] Rocky Vallejo: Dinnie and I and .... help, Dinnie!!!.... are going to look into that [18:22] Abbey Zenith: I sent a list to Geekster. [18:22] Dinnie Devonshire: and by looking at that we would understand more cleaarly how we would need to describe, i.e., what fields [18:22] Damek Tretiak: yes, I believe we had the "what" group and then a "how" group, but that the what would end up describing the initial field set , am I correct? [18:22] Rocky Vallejo: a group volunteered to do that.. in the transcript that my mind has blanked out [18:23] Dinnie Devonshire: I thought the inclusion matrix was a beginning list of what we would be describing [18:23] JJ Drinkwater: Okay, so that's not up for discussion here? Got it [18:23] Takver Twin is Offline [18:23] Damek Tretiak: I thnk that was kind of loosely defined actually. Did we agree on a set of members for that group? [18:23] Usu Ventura is Online [18:23] Rocky Vallejo: I know that Dinnie and I volunteered [18:23] Takver Twin is Online [18:23] Dinnie Devonshire: I was willing to work on fields, but then I'm ready for justr about anything :) [18:23] Rocky Vallejo: as did Cindy [18:24] Damek Tretiak: yes, I did see that email come through. I have to admit I haven't had a chance to read through in detail. [18:24] Swann Proost: yes, i raised my hand too [18:24] Damek Tretiak: I will do that tomorrows...apologies. [18:24] Rocky Vallejo: ahh.. and Swann.. thanks [18:24] Dinnie Devonshire: I still feel that we need to know what it is we are going to describe. There will be some resources [18:24] Dinnie Devonshire: that may use the same fields and some that will demand distinctive fields. [18:24] jwatso21 Book: Sunday's transcript is at http://infoisland.org/drupal/files/SL_catalogers_meeting_022407.txt if anyone needs it [18:25] Rocky Vallejo: This smaller group will meet to discuss fields.... JJ.. you'r emore than welcome to participate in it [18:25] Dinnie Devonshire: It would be good to see the lie of the land as a whole . [18:25] JJ Drinkwater: Dinnie...you mean the *range* of things we'll describe? [18:25] Rocky Vallejo: thanks, Jen [18:25] Usu Ventura is Offline [18:25] Dinnie Devonshire: Yes, and that is where I see the matrix being a good beginning. Although, I can think of a few things that might be missing. [18:26] Dinnie Devonshire: For instance, scripts. Do we describe good scripts that are available? [18:26] Swann Proost: i was hoping that the matrix would help us do that .. come up with new things that we coudl agree upon [18:26] Usu Ventura is Online [18:26] Rocky Vallejo: It will, Swann [18:26] Rocky Vallejo: and it can be added to [18:26] Swann Proost: right [18:26] Rocky Vallejo: I found it helpful [18:27] Rocky Vallejo: The group is still working on what will be cataloged. Scripts could be a good thing to discuss. I wonder if it would good to include them [18:28] Rocky Vallejo: on their own... such as at the ICT [18:28] Rocky Vallejo: .. not inside an object? [18:28] JJ Drinkwater: Thery're a common "info-object" in SL! [18:28] Swann Proost: where are the scripts? any script in SL? ones that selectors add to a script library? [18:28] JJ Drinkwater: Yeah...object with script would be....object-with-behavior? [18:28] Rocky Vallejo: yep.. they are. The ICT allows us to separate them from objects [18:28] Abbey Zenith: the ones in ICT Library perhaps. [18:29] Dinnie Devonshire: That is a good question and one we need to answer. Perhaps we need to say, who will want or be looking for what? [18:29] You: yes the ict would be good [18:29] Swann Proost: if it is an identifiable collection, it makes it easier [18:29] Usu Ventura is Offline [18:29] Rocky Vallejo: If we assign areas of Info to people it might be up to the person(s) who does the ICT what to do [18:29] Dinnie Devonshire: Well, you can also have a "virtual" collection in that there may be several groupings of scripts available in different places. [18:29] Rocky Vallejo: and how to present them [18:30] Rocky Vallejo: I refer people to the ICT all the time.. seems like an excellent thing to include [18:30] Swann Proost: we still need to define where teh scripts come from. i've seen a number around here that i'm not sure would be library-appropriate [18:30] Abbey Zenith: I'd asked Milo for a list, but didn't get one. [18:30] Rocky Vallejo: and you will find "appropriate" ones in the ICT [18:31] Swann Proost: heh [18:31] Swann Proost: also, i believe that scripts can be easily modified .. that could be tough to nail them down in a descriptive sense [18:32] Rocky Vallejo: Yes... they can, Swann.. and I hate to sound like a broken record here.. but will anyway GRIN... [18:32] Dinnie Devonshire: There are scripts that are common, like notegoivers, and then there are other scripts that we might just want to say exist and give a search term for how to find them ... like poses, e.g. [18:32] You: yes [18:32] Rocky Vallejo: but using a collection like the ICT to catalog scripts would be a great way to present some basic ones [18:32] Dinnie Devonshire: I think so [18:32] BrianA Corleone is Offline [18:32] Rocky Vallejo: we know how they woek and can depend on the maker [18:33] Swann Proost: i would ratehr start with a known quantity like that [18:33] Rocky Vallejo: great [18:33] Swann Proost: i think the danger here is scoping ourselves too large [18:33] Swann Proost: we need manageable success [18:33] Dinnie Devonshire: Well, what we really want is the educational side of it. If folks are really adept, then they will grow and learn on thier own more. [18:33] Dinnie Devonshire: We can help those who want basic information or locations. [18:34] Rocky Vallejo: yes..Swann.. I agree... but it is good to go through and see what's important... looks at the big picture first and then stand back and say, "Now.. what can we do?" [18:34] You: yes Dinnie [18:34] Damek Tretiak: it seems almost as if there will be catalogs of information within a larger,more aggregate catalog. [18:34] Damek Tretiak: For isntance, the ICT is a sub-catalog of scripts [18:34] Swann Proost: yes, i thought that we could set some priorities .. include everhting in a list or matrix, then start selecting or assigning ranks [18:35] Rocky Vallejo: I like that, Swann [18:35] Swann Proost: yes, damek .. each is a different faccet [18:35] Damek Tretiak: So, the catalogs themselves could searchabled on their own...or in aggregate? [18:35] Swann Proost: facet [18:35] Swann Proost: you should be able to limit by what you are searching for [18:35] Damek Tretiak: I like that idea as well swann [18:36] Dinnie Devonshire: We have to clearly define collection. E.g., the ITC is both a collection and a place. [18:36] Dinnie Devonshire: ICT [18:36] Rocky Vallejo: It would depend on the set up of the system... and I'm guessing that is possible since you brought it up, Damek? [18:37] Damek Tretiak: yes, I suppose that it was I getting at when I mentioned categories. So, search for places or search for scripts, for example. [18:37] Rocky Vallejo: cool [18:37] Swann Proost: could you search for both together if you werent sure which .. [18:37] JJ Drinkwater: I actually think we should be really careful about "place" here.... [18:37] Swann Proost: or if you wanted to do a comprehensive search? [18:37] Rocky Vallejo: Howso, JJ? [18:38] JJ Drinkwater: First of all, things are always moving around... [18:38] Damek Tretiak: Right now, everything is included as one large database. But as we split it out I was hoping to provide more options for searches of that sort. [18:38] JJ Drinkwater: ...second, and more imprortant, if we have networked "aggregate" collections...place becomes kind of a white elephant? [18:38] Swann Proost: in my list, i included places, but only libraries, although i think it could be expanded to include certain cultural institutions [18:39] Swann Proost: i wouldn't want to catalog the world [18:39] Dinnie Devonshire: And place can be indicated by a title of a place, such as Caledon, rather than as a discrete SLURL. [18:39] Damek Tretiak: that brings up a good point...with the infokits we can keep track of whether or not an item is valid by noting the box is still aournd [18:39] JJ Drinkwater: That could be done with some non-spatial (or pseudo spatial) kind of category, though.... [18:39] Swann Proost: i don't understand that, damek [18:40] Rocky Vallejo: I don't either, Damek [18:40] Abbey Zenith: well, location is going to be fairly general still, right? And "place" such as ICT is different from "location" [18:40] Abbey Zenith: location is taken care of by the box [18:40] Dinnie Devonshire: Yes it is, except we have the problem with things moving around [18:40] Abbey Zenith: not a field in the search [18:40] jwatso21 Book: The consumer health library would like a clickable link in the catalog, not just to name the library [18:40] Damek Tretiak: currently the kits are polled to ensure the items inside are still valid. Otherwise, they will get disabled by the system. To keep the database clean and not full of invalid items. [18:41] Swann Proost: would that work with SL places? [18:41] Damek Tretiak: If a box doesn't respond after a while, the system will disable it's items. [18:41] Swann Proost: and could you get reports out of invalid boxes? [18:41] Abbey Zenith: but that is if you remove the box? [18:42] Abbey Zenith: if I take one off the 5th floor then it doesn't talk back to you so you delete it...right? [18:42] Damek Tretiak: Yes, I can see which boxes no longer respond to requests. [18:42] Damek Tretiak: Yes, that's correct. It doesn't get deleted, though...just disabled. [18:42] Swann Proost: and then someone coud review that list? [18:42] Damek Tretiak: If you move the box somewhere else you can re-enable those items. [18:42] Abbey Zenith: ok [18:43] Damek Tretiak: yes, I could make a list of "recently" disabled kits. Is that what you are referring to? [18:43] Swann Proost: yes [18:43] Swann Proost: someone may not know something is disabled for some reason [18:44] Damek Tretiak: Yes, I'm actually adding a place on the site wher eyou can manage your kits. Similar to how SLX shows it's boxes. That way you can view boxes that either don't respond or show in an inactive state. [18:45] Swann Proost: in addition to the two things we are looking at ... what to catalog, and whch fields to include ... i'm beginning to see another need to help defne the structure or achitecture of the catalog itself [18:46] Swann Proost: how it will function .. it already funcitons a certain way, but we may want to look at things like enabling filtering or category subsets [18:46] Dinnie Devonshire: As it grows, those will become very important. [18:47] Swann Proost: that may give damek guidance on what to tackle as developemnt takes palce [18:47] JJ Drinkwater: Spoken like a metadata-tician, Swann [18:47] Damek Tretiak: yes, I agree. It will be important to define those elements early [18:47] Swann Proost: sorry .. it's genetic [18:47] Damek Tretiak: they do define the structure of the database as well as the user interfaces as well [18:48] Damek Tretiak: I will put together a doc in the next few days describing the current structure along with what I had already planned to do [18:49] Dinnie Devonshire: The would be very useful, DAmek [18:49] Dinnie Devonshire: that [18:49] Rocky Vallejo: Yes.... thanks, Damek [18:49] Damek Tretiak: that may help to give everyone idea of what is avail and where I was going with the current setup. [18:49] Damek Tretiak: you could then take that as a startin gpoint to descirbe the "architecture" of a more defined library system [18:50] Swann Proost: i think i need to control my urge to make this overly complex .. remind myself we probably dont' want a full blown cataloging system [18:50] JJ Drinkwater: I don't think SL is anywhere near stable enough for that yet, Swann [18:50] Damek Tretiak: yes..lol, if we're to get it going this year. :-) [18:50] Rocky Vallejo: We want to keep it as simple as poosible [18:50] Swann Proost: i'm not stable enough for it either [18:50] Dinnie Devonshire: It is sort of the find-get principle. [18:50] Rocky Vallejo: Jen.. you asked about including other information for the HealthInfo Library? [18:51] Damek Tretiak: simple is hard to get to sometimes :-) [18:51] Swann Proost: lol damek [18:51] JJ Drinkwater: Particularly in a room full of catalogers, Damek [18:51] jwatso21 Book: We would like a clickable link for people to get to the resource easily [18:51] Damek Tretiak: lol [18:51] JJ Drinkwater: Ah...a "fetch"? [18:51] Swann Proost: like an 856 [18:51] Dinnie Devonshire: or a go-to? [18:52] You: lol [18:52] Abbey Zenith: we have that...but it takes you to the general area...I don't know if an exact location would work, like JJ said things change frequently. [18:52] jwatso21 Book: whatever gets the user as close as possbile to the resource would be fine [18:52] jwatso21 Book: we don't want them to have to hunt round for it, after finding it in the catalog [18:52] JJ Drinkwater: Something to fetch it would be easier...Damek, can you do that? [18:53] Swann Proost: what do you mean "close" .. as in physical proximity (which i know is weird here) [18:53] Damek Tretiak: yes, that's a good point...it's fine to tp somewhere, but then sometimes you are stuck trying to locate what you came for [18:53] Abbey Zenith: ok right now it takes you to, say the floor, the resources are labeled and there are notecards with the complete list for that section. We could use more boxes. [18:53] Swann Proost: why should we make people have to go anywhere at all if these are virtual objects for the most part? [18:54] JJ Drinkwater: Exactly! [18:54] Dinnie Devonshire: It would depend on what size it was and whether it is copyable. [18:54] Abbey Zenith: hmmm well then why have the island? [18:54] JJ Drinkwater: Why can't we just rez them one? [18:54] Dinnie Devonshire: a whole collection? [18:54] JJ Drinkwater: because a library is more than a repository, Abbey? [18:54] jwatso21 Book: If I'm in this room and I search the catalog for a resource that's in the consumer health library, then I would want to go to the resource [18:54] Abbey Zenith: exactly [18:54] Swann Proost: people don't want whole collections ... just select ojbects from one [18:55] Abbey Zenith: if you give them the resource there is no need to have the buildings, the resources, the exhibits, the island. [18:55] Dinnie Devonshire: But someone might lije I am a genealogist and I want to know where that collection of resources is [18:55] Dinnie Devonshire: So I search genealogy [18:55] Swann Proost: it sounds like you put more value on the buildings etc. then [[18:55] Dinnie Devonshire: no, on the place where the collection is [18:55] Rocky Vallejo: Same here.. I'd rather go to the resoruce... see what else is available [18:55] Swann Proost: ok wait ... [18:55] Dinnie Devonshire: so I can go there and browse the collection of resources [18:55] jwatso21 Book: Plus the staff [18:55] Abbey Zenith: no, but otherwise it is just another Internet search...no reason to come here. [18:55] JJ Drinkwater: Well...then we want both options! [18:56] Rocky Vallejo: it isn't the building... but what is in the building [18:56] Abbey Zenith: righ Rocky [18:56] jwatso21 Book: If we have medical librarians there who can provide specialized information ... [18:56] Swann Proost: if i search for a volume of shakespeare and find it in the catalog, i have to go to the librayr to get it? [18:56] Abbey Zenith: if you don't then why would you come here? [18:56] Swann Proost: this sounds like we are moving backwards from where real libraries are today [18:56] JJ Drinkwater: hat's silly..to make a user go somewhere for an item, in a fully networked environment [18:56] Dinnie Devonshire: This is the distinction we are trying to get at. Some things will be "gettable" and some things one will have to move to in order to use. [18:57] Barena Barzane is Online [18:57] JJ Drinkwater: Why shoudn't everything be "gettable"? [18:57] Swann Proost: some things are determined by the place they are in, but many things are not [18:57] Rocky Vallejo: you can go to a collection of ressrouces on Shakespeare... and also find a bio on him, graphics of him, manuscripts that have been added to SL in graphics form, etc [18:57] Dinnie Devonshire: Because we are in SL, which has its own physics! [18:57] Abbey Zenith: We didn't spend all this time developing a 3-D world to hand to make it gettable by a search... [18:57] Abbey Zenith: we add value hopefully [18:57] Abbey Zenith: or else I've wasted a lot of my time in the last few months. [18:58] Rocky Vallejo: This is why we are discussing "what" to catalog.. to include all the various resources [18:58] JJ Drinkwater: But that's supposing that what people come to the library for is primarily the resources! [18:58] Rocky Vallejo: and... I hate to say this as a cataloger.... a catalog isn not the last word in resources [18:58] Dinnie Devonshire: Are there resources in SL that are "view only" and cannot be copied into Inventory? [18:58] BrianA Corleone is Online [18:59] Damek Tretiak: I think the distinction is whether or not the resource is worth vistiing or just wroth the information it contains. [18:59] Dinnie Devonshire: If so, then one would have to move to them to see them/use them. [18:59] Rocky Vallejo: one can go to an area and find other things that might be left out of the catalog or not cataloged the same way [18:59] Swann Proost: yes damek [18:59] Abbey Zenith: yes [18:59] Rocky Vallejo: That's why I like to browse a collection [18:59] Damek Tretiak: So, to make someone go to a resource, what value does it add by going there? [18:59] Damek Tretiak: If it's just a notecard...you can get that. But if the notecard has value around it...to augment what it's definign then the palce becomes more valuable. [18:59] Abbey Zenith: they get to see librarians, additional resources, exhibits and displays in the same area... [18:59] Abbey Zenith: meet other people, chat. [19:00] JJ Drinkwater: No one is saying you shouldn't have the *option* of going to the resource....just that you shouldn't *have* to! [19:00] Rocky Vallejo: it allows an individual to browse a collection and its other resourees [19:00] jwatso21 Book: We provide a very different environment in the consumer health librayr from what you have here - a supportive environment - we want people to visit [19:00] JJ Drinkwater: No one is saying you shouldn't have the *option* of going to the resource....just that you shouldn't *have* to! [19:00] Swann Proost: that's what i think jj .. we don't want to force a model on people [19:00] Abbey Zenith: Um we want people to visit all the islands. [19:01] Damek Tretiak: I think that's a good disinction though. If I go to a place, because I found a notcard on legal information...I might want to see what else is around it that is also related. [19:01] JJ Drinkwater: But we need to do that by making the islands a place they want to be! [19:01] Rocky Vallejo: yes.. exactly [19:01] Damek Tretiak: But that is more for the designers of the "place" than the catalog. Am I correct? [19:01] JJ Drinkwater: not by inconveniencing them! [19:01] Rocky Vallejo: a catalog is not a perfect guide [19:01] Rocky Vallejo: it is a human attempt at leading people to information [19:01] Swann Proost: i want people to visit my library too, but that doesn't mean i don't make virtual resources available [19:02] Rocky Vallejo: Why not give them the chance of seing waht else is avaialble by going to the source [19:02] Rocky Vallejo: its location [19:02] Swann Proost: i think that is fine to give them taht as a choice, but not to define the need for them [19:02] Rocky Vallejo: OK... obviously we have two very strong schools of thought here [19:02] Rocky Vallejo: BUT [19:02] Rocky Vallejo: we've reached an hour [19:03] Swann Proost: heh .. best hour i've spent all day [19:03] Rocky Vallejo: Do we want to cointinue this? [19:03] Evie Mikazuki is Online [19:03] jwatso21 Book: I need to go [19:03] Damek Tretiak: I wonder ...should a search result include both information on the item found. as well as the location in which it resides? [19:03] Dinnie Devonshire: But I dont think we are trying to define an either/or. We see there are two possibilities and that each may be appropriate at some time, and perhaps both at once, as well! [19:03] Rocky Vallejo: or see if there's something else that needs to be discussed? [19:03] Swann Proost: i think we need to ruminate [19:03] Rocky Vallejo: rumination sounds good, Swann [19:03] JJ Drinkwater: The operative term is "give them a chance" [19:03] Dinnie Devonshire: chew chew [19:04] Rocky Vallejo: Abbey and Damek... Welcome to Cataloging Land! GRIN [19:04] JJ Drinkwater: NOT force them, through lack of other alternatives [19:04] Rocky Vallejo: yep [19:04] Dinnie Devonshire: yes JJ [19:04] Damek Tretiak: lol...this is more dangerous than I though it would be...;-) [19:04] Rocky Vallejo: OK... anything else we should cover? [19:04] Takver Twin is Offline [19:04] JJ Drinkwater climbs down of soapbox [19:04] Dinnie Devonshire: :) [19:04] Dinnie Devonshire: Cataloguing is Always dangerous! [19:04] Rocky Vallejo: heh heh... my asbestos shirt isn't used just around BrianA Corleone [19:05] Rocky Vallejo: OK.. anything else? [19:05] Rocky Vallejo: If not we can adjourn, Cindy will distribute the transcript [19:05] Swann Proost: we just need to follow up on the things we talked about last time, but off line [19:05] Damek Tretiak: Ok, I'll write up my doc that I mentioend in teh next day or two. I'll try to use the matrix provided earlier to define what is already being cataloged. [19:05] Rocky Vallejo: and we'll leave it to Geekster [19:05] Rocky Vallejo: to set a time for our next meeting... or meetings [19:05] Abbey Zenith: Thank you Cindy... yes the google group will be a good place for discussions [19:05] Damek Tretiak: Should I send that to the slcat email list? [19:06] Dinnie Devonshire: Sounds good. [19:06] jwatso21 Book: please do [19:06] Rocky Vallejo: YES.. the email list would be a great way to exchange more ideas/thoughts [19:06] Rocky Vallejo: Thanks, Damek [19:06] Rocky Vallejo: Catalogers cone' bite... just chew [19:07] Damek Tretiak: my pleasure...good ideas, we just need to focus them into a final list [19:07] Rocky Vallejo: except for the ones with claws [19:07] Rocky Vallejo: thank you all! [19:07] jwatso21 Book: thanks Rocky - good meeting [19:07] Damek Tretiak: thanks everyone...till me meet again! [19:07] Dinnie Devonshire: Once a cataloguer, always a cataloguer, I guess :/ [19:07] Swann Proost: thank you rocky for taking th elead [19:07] Rocky Vallejo: sure.. whew [19:07] JJ Drinkwater grins carnivorously at Rocky [19:07] Abbey Zenith: Thanks Rocky :) [19:07] Rocky Vallejo: I'm looking forward to Geekster taking over [19:07] You: see you all later [19:08] Dinnie Devonshire: Thanks Rocky. Good meeting. [19:08] JJ Drinkwater: Thanks Rocky! [19:08] Rocky Vallejo: squirrel ready to run up tree to escape cat [19:08] Dinnie Devonshire: Gotta go. See y'all on the list. [19:08] Rocky Vallejo: bye Dinnie